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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com

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>>7148982
wow, this looks terrible
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>>7149091
The leg redline doesn't help at all and the arm redline is worse than the original lol, should be foreshortened.
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>>7149097
Thanks, not the prettiest thing i will admit
>>7149091
Mouth nipple is supposed to be a piercing
*sigh* back to the drawing board

The left hand is supposed to be shortfortened since the sword is a bit forward but yours doesnt look like its wrong either.

Didnt add a visible pommel because someone already got ended rightly, actually it seemed to make an already large sword even larger so the hand is covering it.

So i add a bit of calf volume at the tippity top and the bottom of the shin.?
>>7149083
True dat
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>>7149101
>the arm redline is worse than the original
True, you have a point
>The leg redline doesn't help at all
Wrong
TA.
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>>7148773
The thigh meat is different from the butt meat, so on a fatter ass the thigh won't rise smoothly into the buttock, but instead the buttock will stick out of the back of the thigh as it's own shape. The buttocks themselves have a naturally beanish, dimpled shape which becomes more obvious the bigger they get.
Here's an extreme example (not my art) for educational purposes

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No redraws required. Show your OC or someone else’s. Give your thoughts and critiques. Maybe this can work as a containment thread for OC redraw discussions/drama.

If you’re going to be a crab, then please be specific.
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I'm trying to make a Wendigo/skull dog OC, how do I make her stand out and a bit unique?
here I tried to copy her into my sketchbook and tried using fine liners for the first time
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>>7146597
Skulldogs are a dime a dozen, so if you want her to stand out she needs some boldly different characteristics. Some ideas: A half broken-off face, dark skull and light fur, part of her body also being skeletal, a creepily long snakelike neck, short fur and a mane like a horse, stripes on the skull or fur, long whiskers, saber tooth teeth…
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>>7138465
luv me some distinct noses
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>>7146970
Me too- I think my subconscious just frankensteined together all the traits I like in characters.
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Valeria Von Lorith
Valeria from Lorith i think? Any Austerfags/ Gerbros to correct me
>pic jebaited
Basically.
Setting
A fantasy version of renesanceesqe europe.
Gun tec starting to become viable army equipement but crossbows swords and plate armor are still quite common
Age 20
Occupation: proffesional hunter, Monster hunter and exorcist.
Things from folklore like jee olden fairyes, maybe a skinwalker classic vamps, warewolfs, ecc.
A fiew lovercraftian creatures.
A fiew originals.
I would describe her as troubled, very troubled , not in the direction of yandere tier sadism, obsession and insanity but the selfdestructive and self sabotaging kind

She is looking for some self respect but often degrades herself through her actions.

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If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here. Remember to keep discussion on-topic as much as possible.

Previous: https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7105220
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>>7148867
commissions are fun, if only I got more commissioners.
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anyone here remember fxy. my nigga did NOT improve no matter how much he tried im fuckin crine
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>>7148913
The ancestor of pawell
No, never heard about him or his fuckin crine
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>kicking out nodraws
Feels good man
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>>7148363
It's like those people that only draw art of a Fotm anime girl for 10 years. I respect the dedication but don't know how some of them make a living.

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Am i always gonna be the only one who prefers lips in drawings like this?

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I'm autistic, with ADHD. I can't focus on trying to get better at all or even come up with anything to draw without just giving up and going back to looking at my phone and doing something else.
I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.
Everything I try doing looks so daunting and impossible. I tried learning Source Filmmaker as a teen and I gave up immediately because it looked too complicated. I tried learning how to make my own games in game maker, gave up immediately and never touched it. Even something like drawing just looks so complex and impossible. This is what it's like for everything I try doing.
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>>7147899
If you think he's bad here, you should see how prolific he's been on /adv/. I have no idea how he hasn't been permanently banned.

Reposts in April 2024:

My ADHD and ADD is ruining my life (26 Apr)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/31130499/

My ADHD is ruining my life (13 Apr)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/31054304/

How do I get better at drawing? (11 Apr)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/31044048/

How do I get better at drawing? (8 Apr)

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>>7147899
>>7148650
(continued)

Should I just kill myself already? (8 Mar)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30867109/

(No title) (8 Mar)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30865059/

How do I get an actual hobby? (7 Mar)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30860735/

I can’t do anything but jerk off or sleep (5 Mar)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30849523/

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>>7147899
>>7148650
(continued)

Reposts in January 2024:

How do I get an actual hobby? (26 Jan)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30633294/

(No title) (25 Jan)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30624427/

How do I finally start drawing? (25 Jan)
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30622674/


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>>7147899
>>7148650
(continued)

Reposts in December 2023:

How do I do anything?
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30470394/

I can't keep living like this
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30464066/

giving up on everything
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30455379/


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>>7147837
No, you haven't told me what to do. You haven't hold me where to start, what techniques to use, what sources to look at. Anything. I get nothing useful out of your replies to me.

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To have creative impulses and never act on them?

J.P said it'll basically fuck you up so bad you'll kill yourself or do rot away.

I have been sorta avoiding drawing even though i'd like to get good at it. I feel very insecure about my extremely lacking artistic ability, though, which is why i've been putting it off for years now.

I still think about it pretty much daily.
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>>7146166
>he's veered into right wing politics
typical retard US politics, "muh enemy hates it so I gotta love it to own 'em."
on a meta-level being AI is an inherently conservative position since it will erode tradition and create a Orwellian nanny state where history will be re-written daily.
At least Tucker seems to get it.
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>>7146176
>Everyone else is hemorrhaging money to impress hot narcissists
who? what does this mean?
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>>7146137
>To have creative impulses and never act on them?
it's like being constipated. if you've got creative impulses act on them, even if it's a little each day.
I put my creative impulses off for years for "practical things" and regret it
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>>7148188
No I think it has to do with not being able to have what you want. We are children throwing tantrums
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>>7148219
>who? what does this mean?

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>Mediocre artist
>Has made millions
How did he do it?
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>>7147283
Dave rapoza annoys me. You can tell he's technically proficient but... it's too fucking much. My eyes feel assaulted by all the small details. It's like looking directly at the sun. You can't stare at it for too long or you'll hate it, yet there's so much you feel you need to look at because of all the detail
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>>7148031
Nice cope but comics just like animation and video games still need a story to be good.
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>>7148088
>You can tell he's technically proficient but... it's too fucking much.
>My eyes feel assaulted by all the small details
I feel the same way.
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>>7148355
tell that to coombait gacha games that make more than triple A games and movies.
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>>7147283
What in God's name?

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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>7126841

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
Making Comics
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga

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>>7148609
so my life currently but with midriff? I'd take it
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>>7146929
Cant wait to see more.
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When do you line shade a shadow instead of just a simple shade?
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>>7148993
>shirt says hide
>hiding his cock in the gyarus
more excellent character design, bravo

>>7148234
please tell me she's going to ss him

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Toober thread

Discuss comfy drawtubers, streamers, or even old pbs art shows.

Finding good art content that isn't a YouTube drama click farm is tough
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>>7148926
>Shitting on Andy Warhol
>died in 1987 so uhh great Da vinci would have used ai too at some point, it doesn't replace that they had STUDIOS OF UNDERLINGS WHO JUST DID MOST OF THE WORK ANYWAYS
>Doesn't appreciate the context of pop art
>Doesn't understand Art history is a reactive conversation that breeds innovation through rebellion of the current zeitgeist of the perception on the ideals of beauty
>Pop art is the beginning of the current modern commercialization of art and is one of the last vestiges Pre-Post modern, of people just fucking making prints because they wanted to.


YEAH so I'll approve your tuber thread I just hate the OP image so much. Triggered, dare I say Bait'd? Kind of a lame take OP. Warhol would not use AI, if anything he fought against generic post modern bullshit all that through his soup can art, you kinda of missed the point.

All fame in Art is eventually tied to money laundering and whether the CIA decided it can gain intel through the transaction. Actual skill may vary from true illustrating professionals to duct banana on wall. That's western art.

Eastern art never really focused on uniqueness as everyone in Japan can draw and Asian art in general has also preffered expression through technique rather "My little special snowflake view of the world" Youre an artisan, jsut shut up and make art. Should we not ultimately judge an artist by the number of artworks and quality?
Picasso made 13,500 paintings, whether or not you think they are shit is irrevalent.
>Katsushika Hokusai

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19,000 prints
ANDY MADE
get off your ass and do something artistic I dont care how, just experiment,, with AI or not, just stop moral high grounding each other, christ, sorry lord name in vain but seriously.
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>>7149046
>Warhol would not use AI
There's no way of knowing, but even some of your points suggest that he would.
>Art history is a reactive conversation that breeds innovation through rebellion of the current zeitgeist
I agree, but the zeitgeist is so fragmented now there are multiple narratives to rebel against. Would Warhol rebel against the notion of technological "progress" and embrace traditional methods in the face of AI? Or would he rebel against the commercial art world's collective panic against AI? It appears a small number of transgressive artists (like filmmaker Harmony Korine) are embracing AI in reaction to the "existential crisis" it poses to artists. I could see Warhol taking a similar approach.
>Da vinci would have used ai too at some point, it doesn't replace that they had STUDIOS OF UNDERLINGS WHO JUST DID MOST OF THE WORK ANYWAYS
Still craft was paramount with Renaissance artists. It's similar to how classic cartoonists and manga artists have assistants.That's different from Warhol's conception of his studio as a "factory" (not that he completely disregarded craft in production, but he sought to have the individual hand of the artist superseded by the artificial aesthetic of mass production).
>Pop art is the beginning of the current modern commercialization of art
Yeah, and in Warhol's own words he wanted to be like a machine. So it's not a stretch to imagine him using AI.
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>>7149046
Nigga unless something is really cool I don't give a fuck about that word salad of why actually this piece of art is a genius reflection on society or human nature. Art is all about drawing titties and cool guys fighting. Remember that
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>>7149098
Interesting.
>>7149100
I know boss at the end of the day its all pretty pictures to impress the misses. Or if you're a incel cope.

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I have an issue. i'm trying to gain followers, made multiple posts about it and some of my current followers responded (super rare) and basically, it seems like they want to be more "friendly" with me than what i wanted or expected.
Naturally, being autistic, i now have no idea what to do to clarify i DONT want to be friends with anyone, while still not looking like an asshole.

To keep it short, the world treated me like shit and i am constantly backstabbed, so i've decided never to trust anyone again, at least not as a friend. I understand i could "just talk to them" while not giving them any info beyond what's necessary BUT, that's where my autism comes in again. I'm perfectly fine when i speak AT someone, or when i talk anonymously like this, but an actual conversation where i have an "identity" (in this case my art name), where someone can "SEE" me, i just don't like it.
It feels so intimate to me, and it makes me want to back away and i wind up not saying anything at all. It doesn't help how delicate this situation is either. How do you say "hey i don't wanna be friends with you" without looking like a dick and pushing away the few followers you have.

This is happening with 2 different people. 1 guy came out of nowhere and started replying as though i'm talking directly to him, as opposed to just posting to vent or ask the entire audience i have. The other guy has been following for a while and i pretty much don't reply to him even though he follows me, i just don't want to talk to him because he seems...off. not in the "off" way that someone retarded like me would be either, just like, something is telling me he'd just be awkward to interact with, and i think it's true since if i did interact, i would only be doing it because i feel forced to do so.

wtf do i do?
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>>7148764
For me it's opposite. Wouldn't you be even slightly curious about who DM'd you and why? I suck really bad at starting conversations and never write first ever, so I really appreciate when someone does so because I know how hard it is. I try to respond nicely to every message I get and it helped me meet both the coolest and the weirdest people out there. I'd say the former are definitely worth it, at least because you can always block/ignore the latter
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>>7148838
>Some people would go through hell and high water just to have a shot like you do. Autism is a gift from God

that's all i needed to read to know you dont understand the situation and are fucking retarded. go find a bridge
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>>7148857
>Most artists
yeah, this is just a blatant lie.

>>7148875
>>7148811
they don't DM me, it's just 2 specific people who comment on my posts. not sure how either of you got that i'm getting DM'd by a bunch of adoring fans or whatever you imagined, but that's not even close to the case.
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>>7148796
1. i don't want to not vent, it's my account, i should have the freedom to do what i want. i shouldn't be cornered like a caged animal because other people don't get it.

2. the problem here is the feeling that it's intimate. as mentioned, i hate one on one where i have an "identity" or can be "seen" because it feels intimate. a one on one like this doesnt matter because i could be anyone, you dont know me and you never will.

i guess more than anything im starting to realize after saying that, that my issues is more serious than i thought and i need to learn how to speak to people in general online, which is shit because i want to be an artist not a fucking vtuber. im not trying to manipulate people on a social level, i just wanna make art and have people go "thats good" and support me because they want to see more of my work, not because they want to support the person behind the work.
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>>7148764
This thread has nothing to do with art. If you don't want to interact with people online, don't post anything besides your work.

>wtf do i do?
Delete your social media, you clearly don't care to be social. Focus on art instead.

What's your opinion on this /ic/?
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>>7149043
Why aren't women more like this?
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she's built like a tranny with those shoulders
>>7149045
if it was a good thread maybe it wouldn't have been in page 10 TO BE HONEST
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>>7149043
wheres the rest of it?
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better than what I can do for now
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bocchi needs to get pregnant

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Go on construction fags, do your best
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>>7145638
Dudes a lolcow that's too retarded to realize he's the butt of the joke.
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>>7147431
that’s a big chair.
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>>7145278
TO ME, MY X-MEN!
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>yes, soon the Barony of Han'Barga will be mine alone
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>>7149080
nice

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Previous thread >>7075266

If you're looking for a place to practice and post all sexual works, from pinups with exaggerated proportions to pornography, then this is the right general for you. Both Eastern and Western styles can coexist here.

>Rules & Guidelines
1) All forms of cartooning styles are welcome; submit and receive feedback from others.
2) Please resize your images below 1000x1000 before posting.
3) Share your knowledge, any tips are certainly welcome for all beginners.
4) Do to not be afraid of asking for critique, please be specific on what help you need.
5) Remember all GB3 related content such as LOLICON, SHOTACON, FURRY pornography, FURRY and BESTIALITY are banned on ALL boards, including red boards, except /b/ and /trash/. DO NOT post that content here.
6) DO NOT reply to AI bait posts. Report and hide, then let the janitors and moderators deal with the problem.

>Community Resources
>>>/ic/courses
>>>/ic/artbook

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>>7148171
>standards
> about hentai artists
Consider the rope, Nigger
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>>7147792
Rank us then I want to see what you consider the worst of the worst
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>>7145651
And one more thing, when you purchase some of Comicraft's fonts, you may or may not have to fix them with a font program, so if you want a more stable dialogue font that's ready to use, you might want to consider using Blambot.
I had to fix my Monologous font myself because it was only reading Regular and Bold Italic when I opened it up in my version of Photoshop. I used a free version of FontLab's TransType 4 font program to fix my fonts so that they were all assigned correctly and ready for use—Plain Regular, Italic Regular, Bold Regular and Italic Bold. I forgot to mention that in my OP. Good luck.
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>>7148268
If you can't recognize skill because you are blinded by your puritan beliefs, then you are a complete utter retard that doesn't know shit about art.
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commissions dried up. I think I'll have to get a day job now and take SFW trad art seriously. I don't even like NSFW.
Kinda sad, I just want to draw lol

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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not read anything into pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite

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>>7147562
What are the best art programs for the Galaxy S6? I currently use ibisPaint, but it feels to simple and the Clip Studio UI is has too much and feels too cluttered. It also frequently crashes on it in my experience and is slow.
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>>7148904
Infinite Painter
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>>7148904
Clip Studio with Simple Mode
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>>7149039
I didn't even know this was a thing. How do I turn it on?
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>>7149082
nvm. This is so much better, wish I knew about this much sooner. I use CSP on PC too and its my preferred program.


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