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Democrats once again prove they have no independent thoughts of their own. They definitely prove they are dog-walked by their corporate news masters.
They are easily led cattle and their lack of self awareness is frightening
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/15/biden-tariff-reaction-trump-00158043
DC slammed Trump’s tariffs. Biden’s decision to keep them draws a very different reaction.
The response offers yet another reminder of just how much the U.S. political consensus has shifted against free trade.

Back in 2018, lawmakers of both parties greeted President Donald Trump’s decision to slap tariffs on Chinese imports with widespread derision.

Six years later, most members of Congress are applauding President Joe Biden’s extension — and in some cases, expansion — of those tariffs, if not calling for him to go even further.

The contrasting reactions to similar policy moves just a few years apart is yet another reminder of just how much the U.S. political consensus has shifted against free trade. And it bodes ill for those hoping Washington will be more open to negotiating new trade deals and cutting tariffs after the 2024 election.

“It’s a terrible, unfortunate movement towards protectionism,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), one of the few lawmakers to critique Biden’s move, told POLITICO when asked why Washington’s reaction has been so different this time around.

Besides Grassley, free trade advocates have remained largely silent.

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>>1295394
Kek.
So it's all trumps tarrifs. He's just increasing some of the tariff rates

Lmao
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>>1295396
Your damage control has failed. Try harder next time.
>>1295397
It was good when Trump did it, but bad when Biden does it, right?
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>>1295398
>It was good when Trump did it, but bad when Biden does it, right
I never said that once.
But you factually did say that it's bad when Trump did it and good when Biden did it.

You are literally mocking yourself at this point
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>tfw you live long enough for chubs to support poor quality chinese cars flooding the US
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>>1295398
>It was good when Trump did it, but bad when Biden does it, right?
NTA but a response like this really shows your lack of understanding of this topic. You haven't explained why this statement in and of itself is ridiculous. Depending on the type of tariffs, the market conditions, the rate of the tariffs and how they're being applied it could absolutely be the case that it was bad when Trump did it and good when Biden did it. A "tariff" is not like a universal tax sticker you slap on something. Its complicated economic police. Of course it can be applied in both good and bad ways. That's like saying "Oh you're a hypocrite for supporting Biden tax reform but not Trump tax reform I thought you said tax reform is bad". That makes no sense, anon. Its your job to provide an argument for why specific tariff policies are either good or bad.

>‘Do not bring the Second Amendment into this courtroom. It doesn’t exist here. So you can’t argue Second Amendment. This is New York.’
~ judge darkeh
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/brooklyn-arsenal-ghost-guns-rifles-found-bushwick-apartment/5409094/
pretty crazy when I have several thousand rounds of ammo
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>>1295349
>pretty crazy when I have several thousand rounds of ammo

Are you using an VPN, sir?
Or posting from IP not your own?

Oh, yes, there you are,
the guy phone posting from the food court, wearing the MAGA hat
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>>1295349
>Judge Darkeh

ABEENA Darkeh


I thought you were being your typical bigot scum self, but even i couldn't resist a pun like this, and I'm a wide awake wokee who never says the N word.
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>>1295366
there is literally nothing illegal about having as much ammo as I do
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>>1295366
Ammo is sold in minimum quantities of twenty. A box of 9mm is 50rds. Twenty boxes (1000 rounds) is smaller than a 24pack of soda cans. And a thousand rounds can cost $200-300 less or more depending on the caliber.

It is very easy to own several thousand rounds at a time.
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>>1295349
>Judge Darkeh sentences man to 10 years in jail for having 50 rounds of ammo
That's weird. The article says "Brooklyn man gets 10 years for arsenal of ghost guns". Could it be you misrepresented what was in the article on purpose? Curious.

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An app that marketed itself as 4chan's tinder had a data leak. An analysis document reveals it was basically a honeypot to harvest data of 'incels' and 'femcels' setup by the EU.

Leak: https://duoleak.acid.im/
Document: https://archive.org/details/duolicious_analysis
More information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IceZnv9OoYQ
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>>1295002
Yeah I already looked through most of this.
It's pretty much all men and trannies... So mostly all men.
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>>1295002
Embarrassing.
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>>1295009
>Only men and women(male) use 4chan
Whoah, unexpected!

>>1295002
Considering basically everything including legitimate corporations have had data leaks, not surprising. Also there was some major corporation that had a data leak and lot of leaked data was people who weren't customers and didn't have an account, but their sensitive data was purchased from a third party.

Safeguard your data, anons
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>>1295331
>Only men and women(male) use 4chan
false, but only men use this app

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Biden demands Texas reopens it's border after the state reduced illegal border crossings by nearly 60%
The 18-inch deep river would only be federal jurisdiction if they could prove it's a commercial waterway, so Biden's lawyers argue that the rio grande is in fact a commercial waterway because they could "imagine a lot of border streams and creeks where you could have friends ferrying Girl Scout cookies in a small rowboat"
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-administration-texas-duel-us-appeals-court-over-floating-migrant-barrier-2024-05-15/
Biden administration, Texas duel in US appeals court over floating migrant barrier

May 15 (Reuters) - The Biden administration on Wednesday urged a U.S. appeals court to rule that Texas cannot keep a 1,000-foot-long floating barrier in the Rio Grande, one in a series of measures taken by the Republican-led state to deter illegal border crossings.

The full New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals heard arguments for about an hour in an appeal by Texas of a judge's ruling that said the state needed the federal government's permission before installing the buoys last July.

The case is part of a larger battle between the administration of President Joe Biden, a Democrat, and Republican officials in Texas and other states who say the federal government has failed to address a recent increase in illegal border crossings from Mexico.

Wednesday's arguments focused on whether the area of the Rio Grande near Eagle Pass, Texas where the barrier was placed is under state or federal control. Under a U.S. environmental law called the Rivers and Harbors Act, the federal government would have the authority if the area were navigable for commercial purposes.

Lanora Pettit, a lawyer for Texas, said the U.S. border with Mexico, is as little as 18 inches deep in that area and there is no history of commercial use of the waterway.


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Michael Gray of the U.S. Department of Justice countered that small border patrol boats, kayaks and ferries all operate in the area, showing its potential for other commercial uses.

It was not clear how the court was leaning, though a few of the judges seemed skeptical of Gray's arguments.

Circuit Judge Kyle Duncan, an appointee of Republican former President Donald Trump, said that other courts have treated waterways as navigable only when they can be "used as a highway" by boats moving up or down the waterway. Ferries, by contrast, cross rivers, he said.

Gray responded that ferry traffic "establishes a highway for commerce" and that because the Rio Grande forms an international border, its use necessarily affects foreign commerce.

"I could imagine a lot of border streams and creeks where you could have friends ferrying Girl Scout cookies in a small rowboat," he said.

The full court agreed to hear the case after a divided three-judge panel sided with the Biden administration in December. Twelve of the court's 17 active judges are appointees of Republican presidents, but two of the three judges on that panel were appointed by Democrats.

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The large network of Republican Domestic Terrorists being commanded by Trump to interfere in the up coming election are vowed to be met with by the Department of Justice

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/13/justice-department-election-threat-technology-00157686

Top Justice Department leaders promised Monday to respond swiftly to threats against officials overseeing this year’s elections and to combat the increasing use of sophisticated technology to disguise the origins of any disruptions.

With a close-fought presidential campaign looming in November, high-ranking federal officials convened at DOJ headquarters to warn that threats of violence related to the election will be pursued aggressively and prosecutors will seek extra punishment in cases involving artificial intelligence and other digital advances.

“If you threaten to harm or kill an election worker, volunteer or official, the Justice Department will find you and we will hold you accountable,” Attorney General Merrick Garland told reporters at the outset of the meeting. “The public servants who administer our elections must be able to do their jobs without fearing for their sanity or their families. We will aggressively investigate and prosecute those who threaten election workers.”

Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco, who is overseeing the Justice Department’s response to AI, said emerging technologies are increasingly involved in efforts to intimidate pollworkers and others who manage elections.

“A particularly disturbing trend across these cases is the way perpetrators use new technologies to mask their identities and communicate their threats,” Monaco said. “Today, criminals use a range of anonymizing technologies, not just burner phones and social media.”

Monaco called “artificial intelligence” the “most disruptive” of the new tools being used to disrupt elections.
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>>1294942
The protests are peaceful until the fascists and police show up.
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>>1294955
>Facebook boomers!
I don't know anyone under 30 that even has a facebook account any more. It's all zoomer bullshit; low IQ/low attention span.
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>>1294948
>>1294948
>>1294955
>>1295013
>Fiery but mostly peaceful BLM seething and coping
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>>1295041
Is BLM in the room now?
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>>1295225
BLM made the milk sour and made the horses sweat in the morning

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CNN

Slovakia’s Prime Minister Robert Fico was shot multiple times after a government meeting and is in a life-threatening condition, according to a statement posted on his official Facebook page.


The Slovak leader was transported to hospital in Banska Bystrica, according to the statement.

The town of Handlova, where the shooting took place, is about two hours’ drive from the capital Bratislava. The government was in the town for an off-site meeting.

Several shots were fired at Fico, according to TASR news agency. Slovakia’s emergency medical service said it sent a helicopter ambulance to the scene.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/15/europe/slovakia-prime-minister-fico-shooting-intl/index.html
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>>1295348
Austria is cheap-Switzerland. We go there to buy furniture and art and for the brothels.
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>>1295359
>Dunno about the mix thing
It's due to the fact they're separated by the Danube.
I agree Germans and hungarians are two distinct ethnic groups, but for about 200 years or so hungaria was under ottoman rule and when the habsburgs recaptured Obunda in 1686 it became under Hadsburg rule and a lot of the culture seeped over. There's a lot of Hungarian influence in modern day Vienna

Some hungarians do believe they descended from Attila the hun, the popular belief is that they are all descendants of the original tribes of hungaria United under Saint Istvan.

I have pictures of The Heros Square in Pest (Budapest) commemorating the original tribal founders of Hungary it's pretty neat https://files.catbox.moe/e7xyji.jpg
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>>1295384
I've seen that monument a couple times and it's why I figured Hungarians were very into Attila, Budapest is a cool city with very large public spaces.

The only fact that led them to elect a moron like Orban is the butthurt they got from how the European powers fucked over the partition of Hungarian land in the treaty of Trianon.

But Slovaks have none of that seething so there's more protests against such clearly corrupt leadership.
How Fico got reelected will always baffle me because his party suffered scandal after scandal, but I think it got down to choosing between corruption, incompetence or the progressive liberal party (And god forbids the gays so that's a no go).
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>>1295171
FSB or CIA?
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>>1295377
I didn't say they were smart German nationalists.

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The health ministry said the decree was the only way Peru’s public health services could “guarantee full coverage of medical attention for mental health”.

In one recent move, lawmakers banned references to gender equality from school textbooks. That has had a devastating effect on classes intended to prevent domestic assault and femicides.

Percy Mayta-Tristán, a medical researcher at Lima’s Scientific University of the South, said that the decree may have been well-intentioned but it revealed a lack of awareness of complex LGBT issues.

“You can’t ignore the context that this is happening in a super-conservative society, where the LGBT community has no rights and where labelling them as mentally ill opens the door to conversion therapy,” he said.

José Pedro Castillo Terrones served as the President of Peru from 28 July 2021 to 7 December 2022.

Mr Castillo’s first prime minister, Guido Bellido, was known, among other things, for praising Fidel Castro for refusing to allow gay people – whom he described using a derogatory term – to participate in the Cuban revolution

https://nypost.com/2024/05/15/world-news/peru-classifies-trans-intersex-people-as-mentally-ill/
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>nypost.com
So what actually happened?
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>>1295383
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/14/peru-officially-classifies-trans-as-mentally-ill/
https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/05/15/peru-trans-people-mentally-ill-supreme-decree/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13419893/trans-intersex-classified-mentally-ill-peru-sparking-fury.html

https://www.tmz.com/2024/05/15/peru-legally-classify-transgender-mental-ill-new-law-lgbtq/

https://dailycaller.com/2024/05/15/peru-transgender-people-mentally-ill/
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>>1295387
There isn't one good news source in that batch of links. It's interesting how only clickbait tabloids are covering the "story".
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>>1295387
>https://www.tmz.com
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk
>https://dailycaller.com/
This is the guy calling you a drone.

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"Make my day, Pal"

Biden proposes June and September debates with Trump, who accepts dates
The president said he will not participate in the traditional televised showdowns organized by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

By Michael Scherer and Josh Dawsey
Updated May 15, 2024 at 9:52 a.m. EDT|Published May 15, 2024 at 8:00 a.m. EDT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/15/biden-trump-presidential-debates/

President Biden said Wednesday that he will not participate in the decades-old tradition of three fall meetings organized by the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates, instead calling on his Republican rival Donald Trump to join him for two televised presidential debates in June and September.

Trump responded minutes later saying he accepted Biden’s offer. “I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September,” he wrote on Truth Social. “I would strongly recommend more than two debates and, for excitement purposes, a very large venue, although Biden is supposedly afraid of crowds.”

“Just tell me when, I’ll be there,” he continued, before referencing a tag line from professional boxing. “'Let’s get ready to Rumble!!!”

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>>1295340
Still no proof. Sad.
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The Donald better wear an xtra thick diaper, because i predict a lot of pants shitting.

VP running mate:''MR tRump, did you shit your pants today again, sir?

tRump:"No, fuckface, i didn't shit my pants today again!"

VP running mate:"Are you sure you didn't shit your pants again today sir sir? I definitely am getting the smell of shit when I stand near you''.
tRump: ''The jokes on you, you dummy, that shit in my pants is from yesterday".
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>CNN and ABC
So Trump has the home court advantage because of both these networks conservative bias.

>Trump wanted one of Fox News too
Now he's being greedy.
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>>1295363
When you figure out why that is you will be a much more worthy poster.
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>>1295376
You lost.


Concede and move on.

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Donald Trump is continuing to see possible warning signs for his White House bid as significant numbers of people are still voting against him in the GOP primary.

On Tuesday, the presumptive 2024 Republican candidate continued his domination in the primaries with resounding victories in Maryland, Nebraska and West Virginia, winning 80 percent, 79.6 percent and 88.4 percent of the votes in the respective states.

However, former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, who dropped out of the race two months ago, is still receiving a notable number of votes against the former president, winning 20 percent of the vote in Maryland, or more than 47,500 votes, and 17.8 percent in Nebraska, which amounts to nearly 37,000 ballots.

While Trump easily secured the GOP presidential nomination, winning all but two of the primary races, there have been signs that the former president is struggling to fully win over Republicans beyond his MAGA base as waves of voters continue to support Haley.

Haley was seen as a more moderate Republican candidate in the GOP primary, with moderates and independents seen as potentially vital to Trump's hopes of taking back the White House from President Joe Biden in November.

There have been multiple polls which suggest that Haley supporters will not go on to vote for Trump in the 2024 election, with Biden's campaign team also said to be hoping to win over these disillusioned Republicans.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vote-against-maryland-nebraska-primary-nikki-haley-1900717
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>>1295229
No. I'm as disappointed in you as your parents are however.
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>>1295236
I don't have parents I'm a test tube baby.
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>>1295154
>Poll numbers go up or down
Another lazy race horse article. The only poll that matters is the votes received at the polling station on election day.
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>>1295154
It's over. Trump just lost.
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>>1295318
>votes received at the polling station on election day.
And only the votes Republicans are willing to count then matter.
Assuming they don't engage in election fraud with fake electorates or stage a coup again.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-china-tariffs-electric-vehicles-evs-solar-2024ba735c47e04a50898a88425c5e2c

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration announced plans to slap new tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, advanced batteries, solar cells, steel, aluminum and medical equipment — an election year move that’s increasing friction between the world’s two largest economies.

The tariffs come in the middle of a heated campaign between President Joe Biden and his Republican predecessor, Donald Trump, in which both candidates are vying to show who’s tougher on China.

The Chinese government was quick to push back, issuing a statement Tuesday that the tariffs “will seriously affect the atmosphere of bilateral cooperation.” The foreign ministry used the word “bullying.”

The tariffs are unlikely to have much of an inflationary impact because of how they’re structured. Administration officials said they think the tariffs won’t escalate tensions with China, yet they expect China will explore ways to respond to the new taxes on its products. It’s uncertain what the long-term impact on prices could be if the tariffs contribute to a wider trade dispute.

The tariffs are to be phased in over the next three years, with those that take effect in 2024 covering EVs, solar cells, syringes, needles, steel and aluminum and more. There are currently very few EVs from China in the U.S., but officials worry low-priced models made possible by Chinese government subsidies could soon start flooding the U.S. market.
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>>1295310
Most executive orders can't fuck with the economy much in the short term, and the few that can, tend to get tied up in court.
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>>1295287
Ok Chuck
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>>1295332
>China currently produces enough food to feed the population of the states
China is literally invading India because they lack the food and water necessary to maintain their population.
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>>1295361
They have been "invading india" since the early 1970s, they can't get over the Himalayas.
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>>1295361
They've been skirmishing on that border since forever, but it isn't about food. Granted, while they may produce enough food to feed the population of the states several times over, they also have more people than the states to feed, several times over. Nonetheless, I've not heard of mass starvations in China since they started violating Maoist principles so hard that they could power the whole country, if they could find a negative and positive pole on his rapidly spinning coffin.

Please help find out what happened to snowflake. Save snowflake!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w7p7G-Tp_ok&pp=ygUeTm9ydGggdmFuY29pdmVyIHN0b2xlbiBjYmlja2Vu

https://www.klax-tv.com/news/national/family-pleads-for-return-of-stolen-chicken/video_0579e4b6-44f1-5be7-859e-6ee8903b5514.html
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>>1294935
I cut her head off, so she would bleed out and make her meat taste better.
She WAS a fat and tender dinner for me and my refugee family.
Stupid people, where we come from, we eat animals, not keep as pets, even dogs (and i aint chyyyyNese).
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>>1295103
the chicken was old, so tough.
I hoped you choked on it, Roma scum.
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What the FUCK

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he world is at a startling demographic milestone. Sometime soon, the global fertility rate will drop below the point needed to keep population constant. It may have already happened.

Fertility is falling almost everywhere, for women across all levels of income, education and labor-force participation. The falling birthrates come with huge implications for the way people live, how economies grow and the standings of the world’s superpowers.

In high-income nations, fertility fell below replacement in the 1970s, and took a leg down during the pandemic. It’s dropping in developing countries, too. India surpassed China as the most populous country last year, yet its fertility is now below replacement.

Fertility is below replacement in India even though the country is still poor and many women don’t work—factors that usually sustain fertility.
Urbanization and the internet have given even women in traditional male-dominated villages a glimpse of societies where fewer children and a higher quality of life are the norm.

“The demographic winter is coming,” said Jesús Fernández-Villaverde, an economist specializing in demographics at the University of Pennsylvania.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/suddenly-there-aren-t-enough-babies-the-whole-world-is-alarmed/ar-BB1mhbxT
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>>1295149
Biden is going to let the Trump
Tax cuts expire. That means the middle class will pay more and reach people less as Trump actually targeted the wealthy. Look at the SALT deduction. When that goes away, the wealthy will reap millions in mortgage deductions they can’t take now. As for the Trump tax cuts not doing shit for you, then you’re in the wealthy class or just to stupid to realize what they did for you
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>>1295157
Well said!
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>>1295157
kill them both. the greedy employers and landlords and the invaders
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>>1295157
Oddly, exactly what Biden was campaigning for, way back in 2006:
https://youtu.be/15djRzWG3_0
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>>1294799
Retarded economists are running the world and hand-wringing that the slaves aren't having enough children to serve in their hell.

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In addition to biden's anal cancer he had removed in 2021, he apparently has been suffering from aneurysms and blood clots as far back as 1988, passing out from strokes and waking up on the floor.
He even had a priest besides his hospital bed to read him his last rights.
This doesn't bother Biden, he's used to waking up on the ground during his daily activities such as walking up stairs or riding bikes.
Also, picrel is this boards jannie
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/14/biden-nearly-died-an-aneurysm-risky-surgery-changed-his-life/
2024
Biden once nearly died of an aneurysm.

Joe Biden awoke suddenly in his hotel room, curled up on the floor and fully clothed, and felt an electric surge inside his head, “a rip of pain like I never felt before,” as he later recalled. It was 4:10 a.m. on a winter day in 1988

The debilitating headaches had been happening for nearly a year, interrupting his first presidential campaign as the 45-year-old Biden popped up to 10 Tylenols a day. He had been diagnosed with a pinched nerve and for a time wore a cervical collar. Now, as he lay on the floor of his hotel room in Rochester, N.Y., the pain was even worse. His legs felt dead, and he struggled to turn his head.

Instead of heading to an emergency room, Biden flew home with an aide to Wilmington, Del. Awakened hours later by even greater pain, he rushed to St. Francis Hospital. It wasn’t a pinched nerve. Doctors found blood in his spinal fluid, and then a dangerous balloon-shaped bulge — an aneurysm — on an artery wall at the base of the brain. Even worse, Biden’s aneurysm had already burst, leaking blood around the base of his brain.

The danger was immense, it could be fatal.

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>>1295205
How did you get to be this indoctrinated by the far right? Was Hitler involved?
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>>1295203
Tens of millions of people don't vote in the primaries.
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>>1295217
>>1294964
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>>1295218
Canadians supposedly cannot vote in US elections.
So you'll be committing election fraud once again, huh?
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>>1295220
Did Canadians elect Biden last time?

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VCU students walk out of commencement during Youngkin address
VCU students who walked out said they were demonstrating support for Palestinians and protesting some of the Republican governor’s crusade against efforts to promote racial equity in education.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/05/11/vcu-youngkin-commencement-walkout/

By Karina Elwood and Laura Vozzella
Updated May 11, 2024 at 3:58 p.m. EDT|Published May 11, 2024 at 12:05 p.m. EDT

RICHMOND — Dozens of Virginia Commonwealth University students walked out of their graduation ceremony Saturday morning as Gov. Glenn Youngkin delivered the commencement address, demonstrating support for Palestinians and protesting some of the Republican’s crusade against efforts to promote racial equity in education.

The selection of Youngkin as speaker drew criticism from some ahead of the ceremony. The university’s chapter of the NAACP this week urged VCU officials to rescind the invitation, and some students in recent days said they would hold a walkout during the ceremony.

On Saturday, attendees at the commencement were given cards congratulating the graduating class but warning that anyone who disrupted the ceremony was subject to removal.

As Youngkin began his speech, dozens of the graduates in attendance filed out of the Greater Richmond Convention Center, mostly in silence, some holding kaffiyeh scarves and signs aloft. “Teach Black history,” one read. “Book bans [do not equal] respect for learning,” read another.
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>>1294657
>Governor who swore to impose a 15 week abortion ban is unpopular among young people
Big surprise
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>>1294657
Unironically, I am glad zoomers are finally standing up to Israel
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>>1294996
You're right, but if you assume that IQ tests are actually testing a particular mind/skillset that is valued by Western society, rather than acuity or intelligence as a whole, this would be expected. Both Chinese and Japanese societies in the modern era are modeled after Western countries - it would make sense to think that their citizens would have similar benchmarks for success. Black people live in Western society and are somewhat accustomed to it; Africans do and are not.
Consider this also: If I accept scientific achievement as a de facto benchmark of general intelligence in an ethnic group, I'd expect groups with higher average intelligence to consistently make more scientific advancements than other racial groups. This isn't the case - despite outperforming them now, Japan was behind Europeans, and later Americans, technologically for most of history. WW2 was ended by a White technological advancement. In contrast, China was consistently above Europeans for most of the Middle Ages, but fell far behind with the Industrial Revolution. Given these things, I must conclude that even if there are general IQ differences across races, they can't be the sole explanation for apparent success. Culture has to play a part; moreover, there's more evidence to suggest culture plays a larger part.
Please note that I'm arguing out of a genuine interest in the topic, not to make "internet arguments won" marks on my wall. I'm not personally attached.
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>>1295010
fascism is a right wing ideology
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>>1295152
>f you assume that IQ tests are actually testing a particular mind/skillset that is valued by Western society, rather than acuity or intelligence as a whole
I'd rephrase that as intelligence in a form that is useful. I've heard people confronted by the IQ thing start to argue about all kinds of hidden intelligences that science has yet to explore, but this always came across as a way to ignore the glaringly obvious.
>Both Chinese and Japanese societies in the modern era are modeled after Western countries - it would make sense to think that their citizens would have similar benchmarks for success. Black people live in Western society and are somewhat accustomed to it; Africans do and are not.
What, asian countries are more modeled after western countries than western countries themselves are? Black people have been in western society for 400 years, they're less accustomed to it than recent Chinese immigrants? Black Americans and Africans are differentiated by genetic admixture and the IQ difference is what you would expect as a result.
I agree about intelligence alone not being the sole factor in certain achievements, although of course it is a large factor. Culture is another factor, but then again culture doesn't sprout from nothing, and raising different races in the same culture still leads to noticeable and consistent gaps between groups.

I get that you're not arguing these points yourself, but just presenting them as what people might believe. I'm just saying I find it hard to agree that these are beliefs people would come to naturally through logic, rather than out of desperation and a bit of fear, searching for any alternative answer no matter how flimsy. Maybe that's cynical, but that's the only way I can figure the intense opposition to even exploring these topics.


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